ICE, CBP Knew Facial Recognition App Couldn't Do What DHS Says It Could

129 points - yesterday at 8:53 PM

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WatchDog yesterday at 11:24 PM
Privacy issues and politics aside, the title doesn't really seem to describe the content of the article.

The app seems to be doing what they say it can do. Is there any actual data as to it's effectiveness, match and false positive rate?

givemeethekeys yesterday at 9:21 PM
DHS, ICE, CBP - seems like a lot of redundancy.
itsanaccount today at 12:25 AM
This is just one more thing in a time of all the things. When all this backlash comes to roost at techs door this site I expect will be shocked. How could the average American confuse the rich VCs with the moloch worshiping pedophiles and the fascist government populists?

When the giant finally wakes in America it won't be reasonable or well targeted. I'm reminded that violence in gang neighborhoods is modeled as a contaigen. Have we ever seen a violence "pandemic"?

Which I guess is why Zuck has been building compounds.

caycep yesterday at 11:14 PM
And we thought the UK jailing people for postage fraud based on a faulty AI was bad...
therobots927 yesterday at 10:27 PM
I wonder when it will sink in for the average (especially non-white) American citizen that you are one false positive in an algorithm away from being arrested and detained / deported. If you’re lucky there will be a public outcry large enough that you’re released (like 5 year old Liam Ramos). Given expectations built into the constitution, this is should be disturbing. As a white, upper middle class, multigenerational citizen of the US, I find ICE’s actions disturbing at a fundamental level. Probably because I can extrapolate to the logical conclusion of this. Other people are extrapolating as well and it wouldn’t surprise me if continued ICE actions spur a public rebellion against surveillance of all forms, after seeing how it can be combined with a lawless federal government to subvert basic rights. I also think it will result in a backlash against private prisons in general as people then extrapolate from the ICE situation to the daily reality faced by primarily black men when interacting with the police. With a simple head nod, the cops can plant evidence and present a narrative to a judge and jury that puts you away for 20 years over nothing more than a dirty look at a cop.

If you think carrying a form of ID or passport will save you from ICE, I just want you to imagine a scenario where you are alone with several federal agents who, when provided with your proof of citizenship, light it on fire with a match and throw you in a van. Papers are just physical objects and unless ICE is wearing 24/7 streaming body cams, the above scenario could happen to literally anyone.

josefritzishere yesterday at 9:46 PM
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flanked-evergl yesterday at 11:13 PM
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CGMthrowaway yesterday at 10:33 PM
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rcakebread yesterday at 11:00 PM
I can just imagine "not hotdog" tech demo they showed Trump and Hesgeth.