Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}

Waiting for the first pro line phone with both the Apple modem and Apple wifi/BT stack in it. Battery life is always a struggle when the phone gets older.

My mother still has an old iPhone because it fits her hand. They don't seem to get this anymore.

I think the most valuable part of this “e” lineup is the in-house developed modem. The power and security benefits are probably enormous.

I'd love to have a smaller/cheaper phone but I continue to hold onto my Pro from a couple years ago is for the high end camera, particularly the telephoto lens.

No, I don't need it all the time.

But when you do need it, it's invaluable.

I'm happy for the existence of the e line mainly because it forces them to bump up the specs on the base iPhone. 17 is so good now that there's very little reason to get the 17 Pro.

I'm glad they added MagSafe with this version, that was my biggest "issue" with the 16e. Thankfully you can add a ring to the back of the device to "give" it MagSafe (the magnets part at least, if not the faster charging).

I really want to like the lower cost e phones, but the lack of ultrawide band support is a deal breaker. Does adding this feature really increase the cost, or is this a calculated move by Apple to ensure those who use this for air tags or keyless entry continue to buy higher end phones.

$599 still feels like they're setting whatever price they can get away with. It's been 20 years, why don't we have sub $500 new iPhones yet?

709 euro in Austria (828.89 us dollars), a 38% increase in price...

Apple seems to be pushing for accessibility and volume. Cheaper phones, mac minis, and entry point mac that will be introduced on Wednesday.

Ironic that there are so many iPhones but such little diversity in the design. It went from "Think Different" to "Conformity & Comfort".

Why they don't mention that the phone is essentially a brick when new iOS will require handing over your ID?

Seems like a decent deal for what it has and getting the full support lifecycle out of it instead of used. Does anyone know if this gets $50 off with the education discount?

> and double the starting storage at 256GB

Is massive storage on a mobile device really still a thing that's important?

I'm saying this as someone with 512GB, but I just checked and I'm using 85GB at the moment, including the OS.

Photos and videos are the likely reason why the phones have so much storage, but these days both apple and google offer decent cloud backup solutions which negates the need for massive on-device storage. I'd rather the storage be smaller, and the savings going toward more battery or whatever.

Am I the only one?

Sad it doesn't have the dynamic island, was going to pick up one of these for testing for iOS app development. Everything else looks fine however, as expected.

It looks like the only changes are 256GB, OLED, MagSafe, A19 and C1X. Anything else of note?

No mention of the amount of onboard RAM. (In this press release or in https://www.apple.com/iphone-17e/specs/.)

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The new iPhone 17empty. Bland design, same old shit repackaged again.

Still no support for "actually owning your device." Disappointing.

The example photos are so bad it is laughable.

No Touch ID? Too bad.