Someone said - in Linux, everything is a file. In Microsoft, everything is a copilot. Lol.
lateforworkyesterday at 8:29 PM
Copilot is just Microsoft's term for AI. How many products have Copilot? Just about all of them.
chatmastayesterday at 8:44 PM
I donât use windows, so most of this doesnât affect me, but I do use GitHub and VSCode. Can anyone clarify, once and for all, whether âGitHub Copilotâ and âVSCode Copilotâ (sic?) are the same product? The documentation isnât even clear, and itâs important because it affects billing. How do these two products interact and where do they NOT overlap?
This confusion even bleeds into other coding harnesses. I have no idea which GitHub MCP server I setup in Claude Code, but the domain has âgithubcopilotâ in it. Am I burning copilot tokens (or ârequestsâ or whatever is their billing unit) when I use this from Claude?
quagyesterday at 8:27 PM
It reminds me of around 2002 when Microsoft named everything ".net".
schappimyesterday at 10:08 PM
Microsoft is not alone in this. Apple does the same thing!
There is Siri on iPhone, Mac, Apple Watch, AirPods, HomePod, Apple TV, and CarPlay and are all different different incarnation of Siri (with different capabilities). Then there is everything else like the Siri Remote, Siri Suggestions (and all their types: Siri apps suggestions, Maps, keyboard, Share Sheet, etc), Siri Shortcuts, and Siri Knowledge (WolframAlpha + Wikipedia + other databases?).
I'm sure 75% of these will be rebranded "Apple Intelligence" by the end of the year...
chatmastayesterday at 9:49 PM
Related: a list of all Microsoft login portals (there are 609 of them).
Surprisingly, I immediately noticed that âGaming Copilotâ is missing (i.e. The version of Copilot that Microsoft shoehorned into the Xbox mobile app).
BirAdamyesterday at 9:01 PM
The only Microsoft products Iâve actively heard people desire within the last 5 years are VSCode and Excel. Microsoft have so severely damaged their brand that theyâve finally shed the image of oddly gray Dell midtowers running XP on Pentium 4.
TradingPlacesyesterday at 8:27 PM
For a moment it was called Microsoft Copilot for Microsoft 365. Naming things is hard.
nfw2today at 1:14 AM
Is there a copilot for Microsoft flight simulator though?
georgeburdellyesterday at 8:42 PM
Reminds me of the 2010s when IBM called everything Watson
ieie3366yesterday at 8:28 PM
Crazy how copilot was a great brand, and might even have been the first mass market LLM product (2022-2023 code autocomplete) but they completely ensloppified it
firefoxdyesterday at 10:59 PM
Just this last week, I wrote about the confusion this creates in the workplace[0]. My coworker said "copilot" literally referring to any code assistant, the same way we say bandaid or kleenex. I thought he was talking about Copilot, the one I see nagging me on Microsoft teams. We had a full discussion about completely different tools without realizing it.
I guess if Copilot were actually a singular entity that had all of these touch points and a decent security model to prevent unintentionally exposing your data - it would be pretty cool.
starkeepertoday at 12:11 AM
How many windows services or low level system dlls has Microsoft lost the source code for and or does not even know what they actually do?
Copilot does not know either but I'm sure the answer is a much bigger number then anyone would be comfortable with.
claysmithrtoday at 12:15 AM
I can't wait for Copilot Copilot for Copilot 365 X Copilot X
gwfyesterday at 8:28 PM
It's the new .NET in that it been so overused as to become almost meaningless.
r0m4n0yesterday at 9:06 PM
To be fair, Google does it too. I just had the product I work on renamed to Gemini Enterprise. Sure we use Gemini but itâs confusing because itâs not really an âenterpriseâ version of Gemini. Itâs just a way to name drop what it uses under the hood. This was our third rename in 4 years so probably will change again soon
mandeepjtoday at 12:41 AM
It's not a product, but enablement or a feature! Just like a 'Pro' label :-)
nlawalkeryesterday at 8:42 PM
I actually was just thinking about doing something very similar for this but for "agent," specifically in the Microsoft ecosystem. There are a zillion different proper nouns (products, services, frameworks, toolkits and tools, SDKs etc.) containing "agent" now, plus a bunch of other things that are now "agentic".
claaamsyesterday at 8:41 PM
No one can ruin microslops branding better than microslop.
1a527dd5yesterday at 9:47 PM
Ignoring the disaster that is their branding/naming.
Copilot is _amazing_. Everyone is hyping about Claude, but I'm way more productive with the copilot cli. The copilot cloud agent is great, and copilot code review is great (we also tried the new very expensive claude code review - it was slow and expensive).
Forget that it's Microsoft, forget that everything is Copilot and go and give it a shot.
bmenrightoday at 12:23 AM
Reminds me of around 2002 when MS slapped â.Netâ onto everything.
Dwedityesterday at 10:32 PM
I have personally nullified one of those, namely the Copilot Key. It took a low level keyboard hook, and blocking a specific sequence of keys, then injecting the right ctrl key back.
shireboyyesterday at 9:20 PM
I get that it's annoying, but also don't know what else one would do? "FooPilot is our Office AI toolset, BarWonk is our code assist tool"? There are also a lot of Claudes and GPTs. Naming things is hard.
ChicagoDaveyesterday at 11:24 PM
If this isnât an indictment of MS management (pun intended), I donât know what is.
Razenganyesterday at 8:19 PM
It's MSN, Plus, Live, Surface, 365 all over again
tedk-42yesterday at 11:11 PM
Microsoft slowly becoming the IBM of the 21st century.
2OEH8eoCRo0yesterday at 8:57 PM
It sucks they got rid of Cortana. The thought of being Master Chief with a Cortana of your own sounds badass.
yunnppyesterday at 8:26 PM
Plot twist: he used Copilot to generate the figure.
giancarlostoroyesterday at 8:24 PM
Its annoying especially since Copilot exists in Visual Studio (Code too I believe) and its not exactly "the same" thing as far as I can tell. I really hate Microsoft's naming conventions. At least call that one Copilot for Devs or something more meaningful.
mirekrusinyesterday at 8:39 PM
They should have called it Micro.
EvanAndersonyesterday at 9:15 PM
Microsoft is uniquely unable to name / brand anything sensibly:
"Outlook" / "Outlook Web Access" / "Outlook Web App" / "Outlook.com" / "new Outlook for Windows" / "Outlook (classic)"
.NET: .NET Framework. ASP.NET. .NET Core. Windows .NET Server. Ugh...)
The love of the term "Explorer": "Internet Explorer" / "Windows Explorer" / "File Explorer" / "MSN Explorer"
Similarly is the love of "Defender": "Windows Defender" / "Microsoft Defender" / "Windows Defender Antivirus" / "Windows Firewall" / "Windows Defender Firewall" / "Microsoft AntiSpyware" / "Microsoft Security Essentials" / "System Center Endpoint Protection"
"Messenger" was a term they loved: "MSN Messenger" / "Windows Messenger" / "Windows Live Messenger" (which also evokes the whole "Windows Live" series of products)
Windows 95 shipped with an email client called "Exchange" that could be used peer-to-peer (using a filesystem-based "Microsoft Mail Postoffice"), but there was also the email server platform "Exchange"
"Microsoft Teams" / "New Microsoft Teams" / "Microsoft Teams for Business"
The real question is how many products could AWS call the same thing
two extremes at play here. A single brand name masquarading as the same product, versus a hundred brand names that donât tell you a thing about what the product is
Kind of why Iâm fond of GCP now. Just name it what it is
We just call it Cope.
Azure Cope. GitHub Cope. SharePoint Cope. Etc.
rdsubhasyesterday at 9:48 PM
Blame brain dead product managers who merely want to hoist their poor quality yearly performance review slop on something existing that carries SEO/SEM value.
Most of the time, these piggy backers only pull down the value of what they're riding on.
Traubenfuchsyesterday at 10:39 PM
How many of those are used regularly by more than 0.1% users?
walrus01yesterday at 9:21 PM
This is what happens when you have some sort of top-down directive from the C-level people to put "AI" in everything, and dozens of department/project managers who all have their own fiefdoms
Handy-Manyesterday at 8:52 PM
It's just one brand: Copilot
deletedyesterday at 8:32 PM
sublinearyesterday at 8:26 PM
> .. the name âCopilotâ now refers to at least 75 different things. Apps, features, platforms, a keyboard key, an entire category of laptops - and a tool for building more Copilots. All named âCopilotâ.
Right, so then it's not a "product", or even a range of "products".
It's a brand name and inherently pointless to map out. It doesn't even have to involve any "AI" to be given the branding. All that matters is it's a thing they have, new or old, that they'd like to push people towards.
throwaway87543yesterday at 8:35 PM
Okay. But how many products have Gemini or Claude in the name?