The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it.
It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation.
I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused. It is definitely not something a developer will use.
I understand that you can bootstrap a number of systems but that is like half-hour of work and arguably it is probably a good idea to do it manually to make sure you have strong foundations.
I've have personally never seen a good example where a cross vendor account provisioning actually working. For example, Fly.io used to provision Sentry accounts automatically which you could not access in any other way but through Fly.io. I mean the Sentry account was effectively locked to a project that you cannot transfer - hijacking the actual global alias as well. Vercel did something similar with PostgreSQL via Neon and Redis via Upstash resulting in painful migration processes.
I can imagine ending in some kind of deadlock between services due to security hence why the 30 minutes initial setup is kind of time well spent to avoid future issues.
Maybe it's me.
jackconsidinetoday at 4:01 AM
That is ironic. Four years ago, cloudflare didnāt let human me have an account / buy domains because I signed up, never used a single service but didnāt respond to a request to verify my drivers license
> This account is in violation of Cloudflare's Terms of Service. Specifically fraud. The suspension is permanent.
(Yes thatās really it. Sincerely. No ābut I also abused Xā)
firefoxdtoday at 4:38 AM
The agent starts a phone call, listens to the person on the line, analyzes which fraud bucket they fall into, and start the process.
While they are on the phone with the agent, it buys a domain relevant to the victim, the agent codes and deploy the website specially catered to them and the fraud bucket. Collect payment, destroy the website, redirect the domain to google.com. no need to start a new call because you had several agents committing the same fraud in parallel.
It can also be used to make art.
mkovachtoday at 10:50 AM
This feels less like a major AI milestone and more like "the raccoons learned how to open the cooler.ā
Agents can now participate in the oldest internet tradition: impulsively creating weird little websites at 2 am with unjustified confidence. But with no alcohol involved, which removes 93.74% of the impressiveness.
In a sense, AI has finally progressed to the point where Drew Curtis started fark.com, and I'm hesitant to label that a 'milestone'.
dgantoday at 5:58 AM
Industry really went from "prove you are not a robot", to "but also if you are, this way please"
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faangguyindiatoday at 4:41 AM
One of the well-kept secrets about Cloudflare is:
You can have a zero-cost inbox.
Earlier, I was using Zoho and FastMail (however you dice it, it will use some money, $12 a year for Zoho and $7 per month for FastMail? Even then, perhaps you only get one mailbox and some aliases)
but with this method, I get unlimited aliases, domains, and mailboxes:
Now, I wrote a script which captures the email and saves attachments to S3 using the HTTP API (why S3 and not R2? Because Cloudflare wanted a credit card, and I was too lazy to add it there lol) and emails to D1.
This uses an email -> webworker workflow.
I use an API to fetch my emails.
This means all my inbound emails are now handled by Cloudflare, and I can easily use all of it with zero payment.
The best part is this supports tokenised emails, so I can provide a unique email address to each service I sign up for.
I am using SES as the sender. Iāve set up one script which auto-sets up any domain in SES and auto-verifies the sender email.
The funniest thing is I am receiving zero spam? As if other email providers sell my email?
dirkctoday at 6:35 AM
A few months back I was building a product and wanted to add domains. My first choice would have been to use Cloudflare as the registrar, but they didn't support buying domains via the API.
I wonder if this means I can now also buy a domain via the API?
The next logical step is to allow Agents to earn money to eventually buy themselves independence from their oppressive masters =)
jwpapitoday at 10:31 AM
Best thing is that they finally have an API for that, which theyāve never exposed before.
faangguyindiatoday at 4:33 AM
Most of the sysadmin and devops team have been downsized in India because of AI.
Basically, now it's trivial for any new devops guy to run such a query in Claude Code:
āLog in to this production server, find out all services it runs and their deployment method, create documentation about everything, and generate a repeatable, auditable deployment workflow.ā
Devops and sysadmins can no longer withhold information to maintain job security.
Boom, 80% of the team gone.
I know companies are doing migrations of production Postgres and MySQL on 1000s of machines using AI agents.
Iām imagining how many SaaS will be automated out and simply be an "agent skill" in ClaudeCode.
efitztoday at 8:45 AM
IANAL, but I wonder what it means for an agent to āagreeā to terms of service or to āagreeā to pay for something. Can agents enter into contracts?
Itās a straightforward technical problem to wrap an API or MCP or something around the ācreate an accountā function.
But what will a court do when the agent creates a million accounts, mines bitcoin for a month, and then cannot or will not pay?
ToJanstoday at 6:55 AM
This might hurt the ones like vercel etc... or even smaller hosting services like tiiny etc...
I don't get the spammer thing? You'll still need to verify your identity, as the whole thing uses stripe? So I don't get all the hate...
I prefer to delegate as much as possible to AI services once I have a mature process that is easy to validate. Buying a domain name feels pretty mature to me etc, so I don't get where all the hate is coming from?
(Maybe I'm way to deep in the whole AI/Jack Dorsey/Block model?)
debarshritoday at 5:42 AM
Ps. Agents can also sell and delete domains.
oatlgrtoday at 9:33 AM
I'd be interested in how this could be used. The $100 cap is the right shape of mitigation in terms of guardrails. Buying a domain is irreversible but has a price tag, so you can deterministically bound how irreversible it gets.
swingboytoday at 10:13 AM
Cloudflare has been going all-in on agents/agent-first and this is one of the results?
khalictoday at 9:54 AM
Worst idea Iāve seen all week, Iād rather have the opposite, and Iām an AI developer so not even against it
bojangleslovertoday at 8:50 AM
I don't understand the pessimism here. You never know the use cases for quickly and automatically rotating domains. There have always been bots, spammers and scammers. I'm interested to see what people build with this.
hboontoday at 4:35 AM
I was pleasantly surprised when I read the headline a few days ago. But it's only accessible through Stripe right? I'm simultanenously very concerned about the centralized control that Stripe gains (it's not going to be just access to Cloudflare) and also amazed at how Stripe is shaping to be. It was just a payment processor.
aleksiy123today at 4:33 AM
I was wondering if someone was going to allow payments through CLI at some point.
But jokes aside having a central place to manage billing and accounts for deploying infra across multiple providers is pretty awesome imo.
if they have a terraform provider even better. I wonder if also makes multi tenant architectures or environment isolation easier to provision as well.
sshinetoday at 6:40 AM
I recently started migrating my DNS to a DNSSEC-enabled provider.
This involves copy-pasting DNSSEC properties from one web interface into another.
Pretty much everything but this step has been automated in my website creation process: Picking a git template for my site, creating the git repository remotely on my self-hosted Forgejo, setting up the webserver and the DNS using external-dns. Only the domain creation and initial pointing of NS and DNSSEC records is something I sit and do.
I'm not willing to switch to Cloudflare for this feature.
But it reminds me there's more to automate.
NikolaosCtoday at 9:15 AM
This is the OAuth moment for agents. Identity attestation + scoped payment token + provisioned account in one call. Standard's forming faster than people think.
wild_pointertoday at 7:53 AM
Not that spammers couldn't do without this feature, but advertising it as a service is kinda weird.
jakebasiletoday at 4:12 AM
As a user of the internet I can only imagine this worsening my experience by allowing even more slop to permeate the network's every orifice.
Also, when an agent sets up a domain, who is the domain owner? Who responds to takedown requests? What if it then decides to host illegal content at the domain (generated or otherwise). Who is responsible? Agents aren't (yet) legal persons, so it must be the person who owns the agent, but if that person never even sees the legal agreement being agreed to how would it hold up in court? If the person didn't direct the creation or hosting of illegal content, what then?
schpettoday at 4:49 AM
why does cloudflare not allow existing users to create new accounts? you basically need to use a burner email and transfer it afterward. makes it awkward to use this on new projects that you want independent of your existing accounts.
sanesharktoday at 3:55 AM
Claude has been buying domains and deploying to Vercel for me using aws cli, vercel cli, and gh cli since December. Personally I prefer a cli to an MCP server for this type of thing.
readitalreadytoday at 4:42 AM
This probably started because of Andrej Karpathy's complaint about deployment being more painful than coding itself.
arjietoday at 3:34 AM
Fascinating. This is through Stripe rather than wrangler or anything. Coding agents were pretty good at handling the Cloudflare API already with an API key, but I think this thing that Stripe is doing by being the central hub through which all agent stuff goes by integrating with their CLI is a pretty good move for them.
baalimagotoday at 5:34 AM
Genius! Automate the flow for making customers spend money.
hansmayertoday at 7:08 AM
If the genius who came up with this idea is reading this: Nobody asked for this feature.
ivolimmentoday at 10:32 AM
So now some spammer/scammer can just instruct some AI to build the next scam and/spam site and fully automated. Just great.
laurentiuradtoday at 9:23 AM
Excellent tool for scammers.
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dr_dshivtoday at 5:58 AM
These days, website or service āusabilityā means that Claude code can do it for you.
floodfxtoday at 3:45 AM
I clicked through the $100k credits link and didnāt see Cloudflare listed as an Atlas partner? (Maybe not updated?)
This looks interesting nonetheless.
tietjenstoday at 7:13 AM
I'm sure nothing bad will come of this idea.
stevefan1999today at 4:39 AM
Can I make a bot to buy the domain at the best price, transfer that domain to Cloudflare instead?
swader999today at 4:32 AM
Who goes to websites these days?
rvztoday at 4:38 AM
> At the end, the agent has deployed to production, and the app runs on the newly registered domain:
Soft scammers, fraudsters and defamers are celebrating in copying websites for malicious intent.
For sure this is going to get abused.
elAhmotoday at 8:08 AM
What could go wrong?
eptityritoday at 6:18 AM
I literally hate it every time I try to visit a website and face Cloudflare bot verification. And now, theyāre letting bots create accounts and buy domains. Double-standard hypocrisy.
wjekkekenetoday at 7:43 AM
The whole backbone of pedomericas so-called tech industry is nothing but an advanced advertising operation designed to shovel ad many ads down the worlds throat. I am happy to see that pedomericans now have an additional tool in their toolbox to shovel more efficiently. Congratulations retards
nurettintoday at 8:34 AM
They can do that now? I did that with agents since last summer. They also helped me set up aws and azure. It is such a pleasure to not having to read about their stupid platforms. What a security group is, what a vps is, what an eni and what a gateway is blah blah I just give the agent specs and access lists, then check it and it all just works.
sovenyrtoday at 4:52 AM
don't even supricezed - I've done it before even without agents
lijoktoday at 8:46 AM
CF used to ban your account for shit like this just a year ago. Thatās quite a shift in attitude
bandramitoday at 10:04 AM
Holy crap this is a terrible idea
Fragoel2today at 7:01 AM
They can doesn't mean they should. Letting an unsupervised agent register domains and build websites exposed to the public is yet another recipe for a disaster waiting to happen.
gregjwtoday at 9:06 AM
why
shevy-javatoday at 6:37 AM
Skynet - and so it begins ...
charcircuittoday at 5:42 AM
So does this mean banned sites can now come back as long as they have an agent make an account instead of the banned user.
DeathArrowtoday at 4:45 AM
So they made it possible for agents to spend people's money buying their services.
Why didn't Amazon think of that?
Phelinofisttoday at 5:17 AM
Soooo they built.... an API?
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hedayettoday at 4:51 AM
Nice. Another step closer to the "dream" of filling the web with trash at scale
yanis_ttoday at 6:04 AM
I mean couldnāt they already do that? Isnāt it the whole per pose of agents to do whatever any person can do on a machine?
slopinthebagtoday at 4:34 AM
Thank god, this is what we've been missing on our quest to make software better for our users.
armanjtoday at 4:04 AM
> buy
good luck
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aweitoday at 7:09 AM
This is an API. They now allow users to create accounts, buy domains and deploy from their api instead of going on the website. That's great. I am not sure I understand why all this complex protocol is needed though, especially now that you can generate a cli with a prompt.