SQL patterns I use to catch transaction fraud

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jstanley today at 4:25 AM
> Real cardholders almost never buy something for exactly $1.00. Coffee is $4.73, gas is $52.81. The roundness is the signal.

Surely this depends on how the vendor sets their prices? If you're going to buy something from a website to test a stolen credit card you don't just get to make up your own prices.

And I think you may be over-indexing on the US "prices don't include tax" thing. Elsewhere, round-number prices are extremely common.

In fact a lot of the rest of the stuff in the post seems like it wouldn't work very well either. (E.g. you're flagging anyone who has done a transaction in the last 90 days outside the range of hours at which they have 2+ transactions? Wouldn't that be like 50% of people?).

It's unclear to me whether this article is an attempt at breaking down complex expertise into over-simplified SQL queries, or whether it is all speculative and made up.

There is a conflict between "Six SQL patterns I use to catch transaction fraud" and "Nothing here comes from anything Iโ€™ve actually worked on or seen".

0cf8612b2e1e today at 5:02 AM

  If a card swipes in Chicago and seven minutes later swipes in Los Angeles, one of those swipes is fake.
How does this work with online shopping? When I am sitting on the couch and buy from Amazon, where does the address get registered?

Can also imagine an edge case: couple shares an online account, one is traveling and purchases with the saved card details.

crmd today at 4:31 AM
> Drawback: this doesnโ€™t work until you have history. New accounts have no baseline.

This is an underrated CX factor: If my card gets denied when iโ€™m a new customer or exhibiting a new pattern, iโ€™m impressed with their software.

However if they deny a transaction where there is any previous history of me authenticating, then Iโ€™m frustrated by their naive paranoid algorithm.

maciekkmrk today at 4:52 AM
What if I go on a roadtrip and suddenly get gas at 2am?
sincerely today at 4:52 AM
This is quite interesting, but the blatantly AI generated explanations are like an anti-signal for quality
achierius today at 4:52 AM
This seems interesting, but has so many signs of AI writing that I worry it's not just edited but generated from whole cloth. Probably still a lot of truth in there but it does give me pause!

> The roundness is the signal.

> Slight pain, same result.

to point at a few.