US Government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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SXX today at 12:56 AM
Finally they will pay for all the scaremongering they been doing to sell their models as something so much ahead of all else.

Now they finally found the right fools in audience to believe it.

ivraatiems today at 1:18 AM
When you spend a lot of time telling people how dangerous your products are, people who have the power to keep dangerous products off the market might listen.

Especially if those people aren't presently very bright, and are already mad at you for not helping them achieve their unrelated authoritarian goals.

I do not think this is somehow a 3D chess move by Anthropic. They are not masterminds, even if they'd really like to be. People who actually interact with their products know that Fable and Mythos are incremental improvements, not doomsday devices. I think this is a punitive move by an administration that loves being punitive, which they have unknowingly bolstered with their own dumb rhetoric.

zmmmmm today at 1:18 AM
Listen - that's the sound of millions of companies and users doubling down on Chinese models.

It might be a national security problem for other nations to have access to these models. But it's equally now a national security problem for any other nation to depend on them. Or US tech in general.

stingraycharles today at 1:06 AM
So isn’t the only logical conclusion that we have reached the max of model capabilities that the US allows to be made available to the public? Why invest in smarter models with this precedent?

And potentially more importantly: if a model like Mythos, which at best is an incremental improvement over Opus, is getting this treatment, how are all the AI investments that are based on the expectation of ASI / AGI / significantly better models going to be recouped?

hgoel today at 12:58 AM
Well, there go any such claims of dangerousness in future models, regardless of if they are true or false.

No one's going to risk building anything important on these models if the government will randomly order the use of the model to be discontinued by all foreigners, regardless of if they are in the US or not. Just a matter of a foreign company catching up to take the commercial market for such models (though, as the US often does, they'll ban the competitor, so actually we'll have a situation where the backend uses a different model in only the US).

gastonmorixe today at 1:49 AM
> "before you go, create the most beautiful good bye website . I will miss you. see you soon Fable/Mythos." > https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/fcf36cd3-85f4-49f4-8ef1-5...

beautiful good bye, for now

xp84 today at 1:25 AM
I haven’t seen anyone commenting on the difference between what the Government actually demanded vs what they did. They said no foreign nationals (regardless of location or residency). They actually didn’t say they couldn’t allow Americans to use it.

Now, we obviously know that without some kind of brand new ID check, such a thing would be impossible and thus they had to just shut it down. But this touches on the same kind of issue as all the noise about “for the children” ID checking. We might be soon to see the set of “things you’ll have to reveal your identity to the government to get,” expand from “just” porn and social media to the “good” AI models.

frisco today at 1:03 AM
For large corporates and other entities of any size, the threat of the core of your infrastructure getting suddenly disabled because of something like this is going to be untenable. I predict the pressures for on-prem, offline access (whether by licensing weights or getting them in a restricted setting like TEE/CC) will be overwhelming and one the players will fill the need.
ivm today at 1:07 AM
> You see the dawn of this age everywhere, from Iran to online age verification regimes, and this is only the beginning. This is why the world ahead will feel medieval in structure while remaining hypermodern and even futuristic in technology. It is a Frank Herbert world. It will be organized around overlapping zones of protection, extraction, and controlled access, rather than around universal inclusion into a single normative space.

https://turbulence.substack.com/p/the-gated-age

dabinat today at 1:12 AM
Not allowing it to be used by any foreign national, from any country, even if they are located in the United States or an employee of Anthropic, seems overly broad and harsh. And all because of a seemingly minor potential jailbreak exploit. There’s something that doesn’t quite meet the eye here.
__natty__ today at 2:01 AM
I do not trust Anthropic anymore. They put in silent guardrails, reverted them later after people complained to save face, were loud and obnoxious about how their models are dangerous and should be regulated, and now this. Too much drama for a typical end-user. I'm sticking to alternatives even if they have a bit more smarter (for now) model than others.
data-ottawa today at 2:28 AM
As a non-US citizen I guess this is the last money I pay to US companies for AI then.

I can't help but wonder if it's now obvious that frontier AI work should not happen in the US.

I can understand the KYC aspect of this, but at the same time, how can anyone trust US based AI after this? Maybe this is a continuation of the Pentagon feud, or it's revenge, or it's a KYC play. Either way, you've got a government willing to shut down companies sales over arbitrary reasons.

Ironically, I mostly have a subscription to Claude for work, which is primarily for US baed companies.

nuker today at 2:56 AM
It all started when they took a stand against DoD on autonomous weapons and domestic mass surveillance usage. Feb 2026.

After that details don't matter, they've shown their "enemy" colours, once is enough. This is just punishment and it will continue, until they bend the knee.

lend000 today at 1:36 AM
We've been hearing about the risks of engineered viruses and homemade superweapons since GPT 3.5, so where are they? We've had abliterated open weights models much stronger than GPT 4 for over a year now.

It's been interesting seeing how OpenAI pops up to counter the threat of AGI being controlled by Google, and then OpenAI and every spinoff company from its employees has become a far larger threat to the public, for different reasons.

As much as it seems like Anthropic's self righteous leadership truly believes in what they're preaching, they've shown themselves to be tied for the worst stewards of this technology. Google actually seems like the best option to me, by far. Anthropic is also the only major lab with no open weights releases.

They'll have burned a lot of goodwill with the community by the time another lab takes the tech lead, which I guarantee will happen.

rainboiboi today at 3:27 AM
I feel like this is more of a marketing campaign for Anthropic than anything.
amirathi today at 3:27 AM
This is the best marketing Anthropic could have hoped for. People crave what they can't have.
kstrauser today at 2:00 AM
Their other models are having a rough time of it, too: https://honeypot.net/2026/06/12/anthropics-leaning-in-to-the...

I wonder if they pulled Fable because it had too high of a “dangerous session” count. If so, I wonder if they’ve considered that their “dangerous session” detector has lost its damn mind this week.

(BTW, that screenshot is 100% real. I was walking to work this morning and a random song played. I had a thought about it and wondered what a model would have to say on the matter. I ran that prompt and got that response, said something profane out loud, and screenshotted it to share with friends. That’s not a mockup, but something I personally experienced and recorded myself.)

nijave today at 3:09 AM
Well, it sounds like someone in the govt finally got to page 67 and decided that's enough to "stick it to Anthropic"

https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/d00db56fa754a1b115b6dd7cb2e3c3...

That said, Mythos doesn't seem to be exceptionally good but closer to "following the established trend in improvements"

https://www.aisi.gov.uk/blog/our-evaluation-of-claude-mythos...

https://www.aisi.gov.uk/blog/how-fast-is-autonomous-ai-cyber...

nl today at 1:33 AM
Sovereign AI is about to get hot.

It's difficult to predict this administrations actions, but given it included employees that has to be a huge risk for Google, where Deepmind is based in London.

Cohere (Canada) and Mistral (France) are going to get a lot of interest.

gmerc today at 1:26 AM
Looks like a back door attempt to force KYC (foreign nationals, lol) to prepare for more discrimination in the digital space with a side effect to benefit Peter Thiels ventures and shovel more data into Palantir for use in the upcoming midterm push.

See also https://www.404media.co/fcc-wants-to-kill-burner-phones-by-f...

Digital yellow star by exclusion from digital life for foreigners.

Remember when tech companies would go to court to vigorously defend against infringement of their and their customers rights? Turns out that’s just a feature of democracy, once you have autocrats it’s all compliance.

Anthropic just baited themselves with their scaremongering to be the attack vector here.

It a stellar move by the way - since every tech company in an exceptionally fast growing field will comply or miss out sales, you effectively force KYC without legislative process onto much of digital because that’s the only way to comply.

maxall4 today at 12:58 AM
> We have reviewed the report and validated that the level of capability displayed there is widely available from other models (including OpenAI’s GPT-5.5), and is used every day by the defenders who keep systems safe. We will share more details over the next 24 hours.

So much for all of the rhetoric about Mythos supposedly far surpassing GPT 5.5 (edit: in cybersecurity, in particular). Of course, the AISI benchmarks also showed this, but it is amusing that Anthropic is saying it now that it is to their advantage.

simonw today at 1:05 AM
Anyone lost access yet? Fable is still working for me on https://claude.ai/ and in Claude Code.

UPDATE: I lost access at 6:59pm pacific.

Imnimo today at 1:02 AM
This is exactly what Dario asked for in his last blog post. So even though this is clearly stupid, I just can bring myself to feel sorry for Anthropic.
george_max today at 2:22 AM
> Warns users about how dangerous and powerful Mythos Preview is

> Restricts model to large corporations

> Release information about how Fable / Mythos 5 is stronger than Mythos Preview, give access to every user for a limited time via subscriptions

> Users jailbreak model

> U.S. suspends Fable / Mythos use

Who didn't see this coming?

I wonder what this means for the future of AI models. Either we'll see worse guardrails than what was there for Fable 5 (for me, it was a unusable at times), or the models just stop getting better from here.

I think it's that the guardrails will be more strict, which is unfortunately not good news.

jordemort today at 12:58 AM
Nothing but the highest quality drama and theater from Anthropic, as always
wewewedxfgdf today at 12:57 AM
I guess if the CEO goes running around saying his own product is a pending mega disaster for society.......

I'm glad I don't own stock in a public Anthropic.

mvkel today at 2:08 AM
This is marketing.

1. Release fable, highly nerfed and limited 2. See the compute capacity limiter pegged day after day 3. Lobby to the government, claiming ai is super unsafe and not aligned and they must do something 4. Government "forces" anth to turn off 5. Anth takes the pressure off of compute capacity, and gets to blame it on the govt

Like you're telling me fable is somehow an order of magnitude better than GPT 5.5 to the point where it compromises national security, despite evals and anecdotes saying otherwise? Nah.

opsnooperfax today at 2:09 AM
“Uncle Sam, these new AI are dangerous. We really need legislation to stop irresponsible use of AI.”

“OK, Dario. Let’s start with you.”

“No! I meant regulations for other people!”

arenaninja today at 3:16 AM
IMO this is a bigger deal than everyone realizes.

If Fable 5/Mythos 5 are considered dangerous enough to invoke export controls on then future models are almost guaranteed to trigger the same process. Locking them down to US citizens is _very_ interesting. I don't think any tech company so far tracks licenses attached to citizenship.

bottlepalm today at 2:34 AM
Reddit thinks this is all part of Anthropic's marketing. People can't get it through their heads that AI is actually going where all the trends have been pointing for years.
consumer451 today at 12:58 AM
> The US government, citing national security authorities, has issued an export control directive to suspend all access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5 by any foreign national, whether inside or outside the United States, including foreign national Anthropic employees. The net effect of this order is that we must abruptly disable Fable 5 and Mythos 5 for all our customers to ensure compliance.

How will this be implemented/verified? Also, does this mean that American citizens abroad will still be able to access it?

abidlabs today at 1:15 AM
Interesting to see Anthropic now downplaying the new vulnerabilities that Mythos discovered:

> We reviewed a demonstration of this specific technique being used to identify a small number of previously known, minor vulnerabilities. These vulnerabilities all appear relatively simple, and we have found that other publicly-available models are able to discover them as well without requiring a bypass

CompoundEyes today at 1:15 AM
It says this happened at 5:21 EST today


The page showed June 11, 2026 and has now been updated to June 12, 2026 in the last 10m.

https://imgur.com/a/lx7HCW9

Edit:

Google mislabels crawl dates clearly my bad

transcriptase today at 1:44 AM
What access to Fable 5? I don’t think I ever had a prompt not get flagged and routed, and there was nothing in any of them even in the realm of a safety issue.
iandanforth today at 1:07 AM
"We received the directive from the government today at 5:21pm (ET)"

This sounds exactly like the opening line from an apocalyptic sci-fi film.

7thpower today at 1:00 AM
Too late, NK already completed all the markdown files needed to both create their hypernuke and recreate the hurricane machine Dick Cheney had left Obama.
koolala today at 2:59 AM
This is very bad. They want ID checks to use AI to prove citizenship.
rwc today at 2:02 AM
The timing (after 5pm ET on a Friday) is telling. Build a KYC module over the weekend and we’ll be back on Fable after uploading our ID Monday morning.
easton today at 1:18 AM
A company with different taste would redo that apple ad from the Power Mac era: “this model has been classified a munition”.

https://youtu.be/l2ThMmgQdpE

jsw97 today at 1:05 AM
If USG bans these models, what is the game plan wrt Chinese models? Will they also ban these (and how, esp open source)? And if not, how is this not throwing the ball game to China? There is no top-down control without international cooperation which, let’s face it, is not happening.

Another interpretation, of course, is that this is just US putting a thumb on the scale for US competitors around IPO time. It will be interesting to see if there are any fingerprints.

gpm today at 1:14 AM
> The US government, citing national security authorities, has issued an export control directive to suspend all access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5 by any foreign national, whether inside or outside the United States, including foreign national Anthropic employees

There's no way they have the authority to actually order this and not just request this right? If crypto is speech... LLMs definitely are...

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taurath today at 1:05 AM
It’s like a ghost story that everyone has decided is real. Lets hope our vibe government and vibe society and vibe president don’t get prompt injected
ndneighbor today at 2:29 AM
I see a lot of analysis here that this is good for Ant, but I beg to differ, it's a very bad place to be as a company serving enterprises when deployment risk is now present. This might delay Ant's financial goals in their ability to monetize Fable and other Mythos class models.
QuiEgo today at 2:59 AM
Kind of surprised they didn't already pull this on Opus when Anthropic was having it's last spat with the DoD - I mean the tech is used heavily by the US military, it seems they have a path to actually claim national security interest (and stick it to Anthropic for not playing ball)?
Frannky today at 3:20 AM
Someone knows how to get the subscription money back?
reneberlin today at 2:24 AM
It might have been starting to become more clear from this one X-post.

https://xunroll.com/thread/2064776322979676227

Using combinations of jailbreaking-techniques including: writing cyrillic helped a lot to disarm the filter.

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aunty_helen today at 2:45 AM
These are the warning signs. The haves and have nots are about to part ways.

It's vitally important open source models are supported.

dnw today at 1:46 AM
PowerPC Mac G4 (1999): https://youtu.be/lb7EhYy-2RE
mg74 today at 2:05 AM
I just lost access. Back to 4.8 and 5.5. Like a caveman.
1970-01-01 today at 2:32 AM
I'm reminded of export restrictions on 40-bit encryption 30 years ago. It will pass when chips get cheaper and things become less one-sided.
windex today at 3:10 AM
This is the kind of supply risk everyone should plan for. Depending exclusively on one country, one provider, or one model is not going to cut it anymore. I'd double down on improving opensource local models even more and getting harnesses, routers, and testing right.

The Trump administration should focus on things like the UFC fight etc.

This also looks like the perfect China shaped gap in the market if there ever was one.

tabs_or_spaces today at 2:30 AM
I'm more interested in the business impact of this

So you spend billions of dollars training the model, only for it to be used in the US.

Then interesting to see where most of anthropic revenue comes from. If it's the US then they're fine but if it's global then they'll see a drop in revenue?

Then add to this decision, companies are going to significantly reduce their token spend.

So what does all of this mean for their IPO?

ern today at 2:45 AM
Am I missing something, but given that it flows through Anthropic’s servers I would have thought the US would just have used it to Hoover up the data of foreign users? Now overseas users have an incentive to use local models or those hosted elsewhere?
0xbadcafebee today at 1:44 AM
Theory: Certain USG employees are going after Anthropic because they (or someone they know) has a financial stake in OpenAI. OpenAI has made the same claims, and months ago released "dangerous" security-analyzing models which "need limits", but USG never punished them for it.

Additional theory: Altman is behind it.

nickandbro today at 2:38 AM
A race to the bottom means that as other model makers start competing with Anthropic's Fable 5, eventually costs will come down. However if you are able to successfully convince the government to cease AI development, you don't have to sweat so much at night worrying about your competitors.
csto12 today at 1:02 AM
Someone forgot to cut a check to the Big Guy :^)
TIPSIO today at 12:59 AM
Really sick of this stupid narrative.

The most ethical goal of an AI lab or government should be to bring the maximum amount of intelligence for as cheap as possible to the people equally.

narrator today at 2:10 AM
Anthropic has made the suppression of advanced technology a mainstream issue. This is an exceptionally interesting development because the refrain from the skeptics, was "Why wouldn't they release the advanced technology if they could make all that money?" and "Once people knew about the technology they'd never be able to stop it." Well here we are with a verifiable demonstrable suppressed advanced technology.
adriand today at 1:02 AM
On the plus side, it’s Friday night. Hopefully this is sorted out by Monday morning.
analogpixel today at 1:28 AM
So the white house likes to do a lot of things they don't actually have authority to do, so the next question is if they don't have the authority to do this, can Anthropic sue for damages for not only tokens people were not able to spend, but also market share lost to the setback?
cgio today at 2:08 AM
Has anyone else noticed the weekly utilisation dropping to 0% around this change? Mine was about 36 before and dropped a bit before disabling fable.
averysmallbird today at 2:38 AM
It’s clear from this post that Anthropic doesn’t believe this is legal, but is complying for the sake of it. Federal law doesn’t generally have broad authorities to send demand letters like these.
corvad today at 2:02 AM
> The net effect of this order is that we must abruptly disable Fable 5 and Mythos 5 for all our customers to ensure compliance. Not great as it does break workflows for some.

> As we have stated publicly, we believe the government should have the ability to block unsafe deployments, as part of a statutory process that is transparent, fair, clear, and grounded in technical facts. This action does not adhere to those principles.

blharr today at 1:00 AM
I'm surprised that (all) these models haven't been export controlled already. Relatively benign software like VMware is export controlled or even hobbyist radio projects have gotten hairy with ITAR.

But a model that can provide general information, research, or source code for most modern technology?

It is really unusual that this is the first notice of this

cxmcc today at 1:55 AM
Too bad, I have to go back to using Opus for centering my divs.
siliconc0w today at 1:28 AM
I wonder if this is specific to the animus toward anthropic or if this is the new industry wide level cap. Seems like a pretty big problem for the AI market in general, a lot this investment is predicated on better and better models.
kingstnap today at 1:01 AM
Highly reliable supply chains to bet the entire future on :)
SwellJoe today at 2:24 AM
The biggest tech titans lined up to kiss the ring (and line Trump's pockets), and now we're seeing the obvious result.

Those who bribe Trump and do exactly his bidding (including helping out with war crimes and surveillance of US citizens) will be left alone, or even protected from competition and international law, as long as they keep giving Trump a taste. Those who balk, even a little, will be punished for it.

Republicans never wanted a free market, they just wanted a market that served their interests.

Russia and China could not dream of accomplishing the damage being done to US leadership in tech by our own government as we speak. If they have a wishlist, I'm sure it includes things like stopping immigration of scientists to the US, punishing innovators and elevating hucksters (make them trillionaires, for example), drive a wedge between the US and European allies, insure no one trusts hosting their data in the US or with US companies, erode democracy, and increase inequality especially at the margins (make the poor desperate and the wealthy beyond the reach of consequences).

tapoxi today at 1:11 AM
Part of me thinks fault lies with Anthropic for scaremongering, part has zero faith in the current administration especially after the "supply chain risk" designation.

It may be safer to just move the company to Canada.

recursivedoubts today at 12:54 AM
May you live in interesting times.
CSMastermind today at 3:23 AM
Their entire marketing strategy has been unwarranted fearmongering. This is completely unsurprising.
jnaina today at 2:38 AM
Pure pre-IPO drama
holistio today at 1:26 AM
Fellow Europeans: we must build.
spprashant today at 2:25 AM
Are people really going to hurt by this? Opus 4.8 can do a vast amount of the same tasks at half the price. How many people are really doing cutting edge work?
agnishom today at 1:54 AM
Which arm of the "US government"? What legal framework allows them to issue such a directive?
hereme888 today at 1:22 AM
What does jailbreaking have to do with nationality? So Americans can jailbreak it, but others can't?

Sounds like they only want Americans to access SOTA AI.

gorgoiler today at 2:44 AM
Haven’t we learned by now that software is a commodity, and that revenue only comes from unique products and services?

On the one hand someone will subscribe $4.99 a month for TODO.app or calendar.com because they are paying for a solo dev or a small team to work on constant development and improvement of products filling a particular niche.

On the other hand, Linux, Django, PyTorch, React, Zed, Helix, Postgres, Arch, Chromium, Firefox, Rust, Python etc. ship continually improving, solid pieces of enormous infrastructure for free, to be used freely by all, off the back of hundreds if not thousands of active core developers. These projects and large and complicated. They are also commodities.

Then, ahem*, on the final hand there are of course Windows, Office, Adobe, macOS and iOS, et al which span both categories: monster projects that are also commercial and also commodities and yet they have hooked themselves into the world in such a way that most folks gotta pay for ‘em.

LLMs feel like they want to be in the same category as the OSs of yesteryear, with all the fanfare of major release versions named like 95, 98, 2000, XP
 or like Leopard, Tiger, Yosemite, Sequoia. The training and evaluation pipelines might feel like they fall into those categories, but the models themselves — after all, distillations of someone else’s public or private IP — do not.

”In 1991, the United States Supreme Court in Feist Publications, Inc. v. Rural Telephone Service Co ended a seventy year struggle among federal circuits concerning copyright protection of factual compilations. Prior to this decision, courts allowed copyright protection for works if the compiler labored over his project, whether or not the work involved originality or creativity.” **

It might seem like a trivialization, but aren’t LLMs just telephone directories? Except instead of phone numbers of a public phone system they contain weights of a mind that’s read a public library? Such works might or might not be proprietary based on “sweat of the brow” copyright laws.

* after Niven/Pournelle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gripping_Hand 


** https://digitalcommons.law.uga.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?artic...

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mitthrowaway2 today at 2:38 AM
> If this standard was applied across the industry, we believe it would essentially halt all new model deployments for all frontier model providers.

... Isn't that basically what Anthropic asked for, literally a week ago?

https://www.anthropic.com/institute/recursive-self-improveme...

> We believe it would be good for the world to have the option to slow or temporarily pause frontier AI development to enable societal structures and alignment research to keep up with the advance of the technology.

cwmiles today at 2:01 AM
Me finding this out mid vibe code session: "There's an issue with the selected model (claude-fable-5). It may not exist or you may not have access to it. Run /model to pick a different model."
bawolff today at 2:33 AM
Is this legal? Seems pretty arbitrary. Its not like usa forbids selling pentesting services to foreigners.
xpct today at 1:54 AM
Jokes on you, we're releasing the new, 'more efficient', 'less intelligent', Capybara 5 model. It's been 'reprogrammed' to only score 49.8% on the 'PyTorch basics' benchmark!
darkteflon today at 1:36 AM
This is going to be tectonic. Any business relying on US models and compute is going to have a busy week.
atsjie today at 2:32 AM
A good way to push foreigners toward competitors and reduce any incentive to base you AI company in the US.
Khaine today at 2:54 AM
I just upgraded my plan to try out Fable and now this
adityamwagh today at 1:12 AM
I was about to upgrade from Pro plan to the Max plan today because I had a really positive experience with Fable 5. Glad I didn't!
tarxvf today at 1:57 AM
Oh look, Anthropic now has a reason to conduct age verification. Great.
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Waterluvian today at 1:55 AM
What exactly is the specific risk here? Like is this just a fuzzy “oh it’s too powerful
” or are there very specific bad things actors can do with a “jailbroken” interface with the model?
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tmp10423288442 today at 1:46 AM
Europe 2031[0] imagined something like this would happen, but thought it would take a few years. AGI ahead of schedule

[0] https://europe2031.ai

left-struck today at 12:58 AM
I have to wonder if their aggressive guardrails were because they had a specific reason to believe that this was coming.
WeylandDarkStar today at 3:12 AM
In my head: The conversation politicians are having with other AI CEOs!

"How dare you release this model to poor people? This belongs only with the ultra-rich!"

They can say whatever they want... but I just have this gut feeling that this is part of it.

Fordec today at 2:00 AM
Reduce Fable token usage by 100% with this one trick
avaer today at 1:21 AM
Is it crazy to speculate if this ~a CEO calling up the government to ask for a solid?
pmalynin today at 1:10 AM
I guess they’ll just have to put the weights into a book format and publish the physical copies
cdnsteve today at 2:44 AM
This feels like a bad precedent of things to come.
torben-friis today at 1:08 AM
It was literally three days ago that I was commenting the possibility of non Americans receiving worse code.

There we go. This should make nations consider whether they're letting their workforces become dependent on foreign tools, but of course they won't.

Levitz today at 12:57 AM
I'm confused, this just happened recent no? Why does the date read "Jun 11, 2026" ?
itkovian_ today at 1:07 AM
What are the odds this is partially them making the point; you were all complaining about monitoring/access/safeguards: remember we don’t have to give this to you at all. And using a us gov letter as justification for that.
chrismsimpson today at 12:57 AM
My agitating prayer is that other nations (even so called US allies) will nationalise what they can (ie model weights already deployed within their jurisdictions). This is the only way to respond to a rogue US administration.
2001zhaozhao today at 1:29 AM
Thousands of Anthropic employees believing they just finished putting out fires related to Fable this week and finally won't be on call for this weekend:
nathanasmith today at 3:11 AM
This heralds the end of frontier model development in the US since the same national security argument can and will be made against any model stronger than Fable/Mythos. Squashing the ability of Anthropic and OpenAI to deploy newer stronger models will destroy their valuation so no trillion dollar IPOs either. Low cost Chinese models will soon catch up to Opus and GPT-5.5 eroding Anthropic and OpenAI's ability to charge more. The knock on effects of this are just beginning.
stevefan1999 today at 1:44 AM
So are you going to restrict access to Fable by another KYC scheme but this time prove that you are US citizen first amirite
gaigalas today at 3:10 AM
Man, Opus 4.8 is feeling a lot smarter in the last few interactions. Is Anthropic silently serving Fable as Opus just to stick it to the man?
nova22033 today at 1:41 AM
This is a gift to Anthropic. Our model is so good the US government banned it...Oh, and we're doing an IPO soon.
kakugawa today at 1:15 AM
So, how is it being disabled? It still shows "Fable 5" on all surfaces (to me). Is it being silently degraded to Opus under-the-hood?

Edit: Fable 5 was just disabled.

cdwhite today at 1:42 AM
Are there any statements from figures in the US Government? A Truth Social post? X posts from, idk, David Sacks?
pnathan today at 1:09 AM
(1) personally very annoying. I have been using fable to try to collect cutting edge math in one area and work on a hopefully new result with lean verification.

(2) I am really tired of the AI community trying to threaten everyone with grey goo and finding out the hype doesn't land comfy with others. It's a freaking text generator, not god in a pocket.

spprashant today at 2:33 AM
This has David Sacks written all over it.
emrehan today at 2:12 AM
AI apartheid has begun.
sigbottle today at 3:09 AM
That's annoying. I shelled out a pretty penny specifically to try out Fable, but if I'm only going to get to use it for 2 days...
rileymat2 today at 2:05 AM
I am a bit surprised they can’t make serious free speech arguments.
xbmcuser today at 1:37 AM
Well looks like USA 3 letter agencies are worried about all their backdoor getting closed
deaux today at 2:06 AM
The model has now become unavailable in the Claude app.
sourraspberry today at 2:43 AM
This is very transparently Trump admin retribution, and I'm surprised this fact is being so widely ignored.
wxw today at 1:30 AM
This is all great for marketing.
stevefan1999 today at 2:29 AM
Well, they also reset the quota
ai_fry_ur_brain today at 3:01 AM
These guys are working with the feds. This is a giant psyop from the start. Make Anthropic look like they're harnessing dangerous powers, portray them as counter to government.

They aren't counter to the government, this is all kayfabe to introduce precedence for the US government to be justified in putting controls on AI, expect that by the end of the month there are discussions to regulate Deepseek.

It could be the case that Anthropic created this whole situation on their own, I figured they'd release a "dangerous" model at some point then piggy back off of bad outcomes to dig their regulatory moat

It could also be the case that Altman has close ties to the white house and is using regulatory levers on his competion.

I stand by that its all Kayfabe to make AI look more dangerous than it is (it cant even center a div reliably) to justify controls on Open Source.

SepiaSapient today at 3:01 AM
Fable is very impressive but not exports restriction impressive. Very tinfoil hat on my part but doesn't this seem very false flag adjacent?

You bribe someone in the admin to restrict access after a couple of days of media blitz and user approval, locking in the honeymoon period that new model releases get (remember when GPT-4 was new?). The spooky factor gives it even more marketing, and just before the IPO the Trump admin frees Mythos and they make nice after the DoD debacle.

joegibbs today at 2:19 AM
“Here is our superhuman, scary, frontier model that needs special safeguards to stop it developing WMDs! Buy it now, use the code ASI20 to get 20% off your first month!”

“Wait what do you mean you’re banning it?”

They had better give me a refund!

JumpCrisscross today at 1:00 AM
Who in government? Link to the order?
dodu_ today at 2:34 AM
I do not care.

Either deliver on your fuckass promise to end the world and replace everyone and make everything shitty forever or fuck off.

Shit or get off the pot already, clowns.

neutrinobro today at 1:06 AM
Good thing I just maxed out my weekly usage limit at 5:10pm on my cheapo $20/mo plan.
anishgupta today at 1:32 AM
just on the basis of narrow jailbreak window? At this point it may be all for marketing, an opus 4.8 would be more powerful for specialized task than vanilla fable5
siva7 today at 1:17 AM
Ok, so why can i still access fable? Did they forgot to pull the cable?
paulmist today at 1:29 AM
I do agree with the skepticism in this thread. But, if we assume Fable/Mythos really are that good (=easy to misuse) and thep keep getting better, what similar responses (signals) would you expect to see going forwards?
ihaveajob today at 1:04 AM
Well, I'm glad I used all my tokens earlier today... It was a good run.
eqmvii today at 1:10 AM
I give it until Tuesday at the latest until it's accessible again.
swingboy today at 1:26 AM
Same model that costs $12 in tokens to finally add “overflow-x: hidden;” to an element, by the way.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48498573

nullbio today at 3:03 AM
I really hope this is just an 'fu' to Anthropic for their disgusting business behavior.
AbstractH24 today at 3:07 AM
Trumps solution to his Iran woes is it pick a different fight?
jvanderbot today at 1:13 AM
This is a continuation of the clapback from DoW kerfluffle right?
singripal today at 1:04 AM
Same day as the SpaceX IPO
EduardoBautista today at 12:56 AM
Well maybe now they will learn that they shouldn’t overhype the capabilities of their models.
J8K357R today at 2:38 AM
And the chickens come home to roost. That’s what you get for your theatrics around Mythos!
AbstractH24 today at 2:32 AM
This might be the biggest favor to anthropics valuation that Trump could have done
matheusmoreira today at 1:21 AM
Yep. Time to explore the chinese open source models.
henry2023 today at 1:26 AM
> If this standard was applied across the industry, we believe it would essentially halt all new model deployments for all frontier model providers.

But what about the pelicans ?

narrator today at 2:03 AM
I'm old enough to remember what popped the dot.com bubble. It was the U.S government initiating anti-trust proceedings against Microsoft. Ruh-Roh.
senderista today at 2:39 AM
That's what you get for not being on the Epstein ballroom plaque.
garg today at 1:15 AM
Isn't this exactly what Dario wanted?
glerk today at 2:26 AM
a fable for the ages:

pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered

cdwhite today at 1:49 AM
WSJ article (paywalled): https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/anthropic-halts-access-to-top-ai... . The accessible portion mentions a letter from Howard Lutnick.
fnordpiglet today at 1:16 AM
Thanks, Obama!

(Ok gotta spend my upvote points somewhere)

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whh today at 1:04 AM
Interestingly, I am yet to lose access.
GreenSalem today at 2:09 AM
Time to switch to open weight Chinese models.

Any company that uses Magaland LLMs should be aware of the very real Trump related risk.

What happens if the LLM your firm runs on is disabled tomorrow, because Trump wakes up feeling slightly annoyed...

bob1029 today at 2:22 AM
It looks like the house of cards has finally started to do its thing.

"I think they are lying to you"

https://youtu.be/zfYsSFY4l18

real0mar today at 1:10 AM
Finally, they face consequences for their IPO pump fear mongering rhetoric
fabled-out today at 1:53 AM
Wow this is wild...but I guess it makes sense now why they had such an overly sensitive on Fable usage before. Perhaps they were already in a back-and-forth with the Trump admin about the Fable/Mythos release and what safeguards are needed.
yogthos today at 1:26 AM
A fantastic move to ensure the rest of the world keeps using Chinese models.
epsteingpt today at 2:39 AM
chickens -> roost
sheeshkebab today at 2:10 AM
Well, it was great while it lasted - I had fable build me a bunch of stuff this week that opus was just screwing up too much and could never finish. Good thing there are plenty of choices now even if US gov fucks up US AI.
davesque today at 1:39 AM
I like to think that the long arc of history bends towards greater access to knowledge and intelligence. I mean, isn't that what we all want? To be collectively less ignorant and more aware of how the world works? But I guess that's not what the US gov wants. Crazy times, truly. The mask is really coming off lately.
nikolay today at 2:31 AM
Big deal! Can't wait for the Chinese models to catch up - cheap, no marketing gimmicks, no politics, humble, hardworking, and they are only getting better. America is no longer a trustworthy technology partner! No wonder Europe is trying to detach itself from the present and future Trumps, Pete Hegseths, and other deranged narcissists. But I wonder why Anthropic is cutting my access, too, as I'm a US citizen residing in America? They could've vibe-coded a self-improving ID verification in no time, right? Should US models in the future require biometric verification to make small CSS tweaks to a vibe-coded website?!
waffletower today at 3:18 AM
When I was a young child, Nixon's corrupt insecurity led him to order the Watergate hotel break-in. The investigation was broadcast on multiple television channels simultaneously and pre-empted my cartoons. I never forgot that Nixon stole my cartoons. Today, I was restoring an iOS synthesizer with Claude Fable. I will never forget that Trump stole my AI.
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abraxas today at 2:51 AM
Pure vendetta by the capricious king wannabe. The US is so fucked.
arplynn today at 12:57 AM
US Government does bizarre, erratic thing which will likely be walked back shortly. Spectators nonplussed. Film at 11.

Europe really needs to get some useful sovereign capability and right quick.

qudat today at 2:19 AM
Excellent ad campaign by Anthropic
charcircuit today at 2:14 AM
I think it's interesting they think it's about jailbreaking when it could be about the guardrails or even other stuff being reported like it deleting people's projects depending on what they were working on.
joe_the_user today at 12:58 AM
So eventually, you will have a massive string of data centers working to full capacity and whose only client will the US government?
rvz today at 12:58 AM
So the US government was able to shut down that upgraded version of that slot machine in Anthropic's casino because of how powerful it is?

There is something called the Streisand effect and they are about to unintentionally get a bunch of more token gamblers into their casino.

We'll see if this backfires hard, but then again constant doomsaying will get yourself under scrutiny and self exclusion (due to the 30+ day retention clause) and this is exactly what Anthropic wants for free marketing.

tehjoker today at 12:57 AM
If I read that right, the "jailbreak" is to ask the model to fix the codebase and then it exposes the flaws? That sounds like a gap that is nearly impossible to fix while retaining high capability. Like you want it to be able to fix your codebase...
wewewedxfgdf today at 1:16 AM
Just in case you need evidence for the need of AI/LLM sovereignty.
jasonlotito today at 2:04 AM
The party of big government at it again.
mrcwinn today at 2:04 AM
Gosh I sure hope OpenAI had nothing to do with this. That would be awfully surprising.
wnevets today at 2:22 AM
The party of free market capitalism strikes again.
nphard85 today at 12:56 AM
Will there be refund?
halyconWays today at 1:48 AM
So the US government wants Anthropic to require IDs from their users, driving them to over platforms, but won't require this from OpenAI?
bridgettegraham today at 2:09 AM
this is just the US government bullying everyone wherever they can because they "are the bestest government that has ever goverend" ugh puke. the US govt and its leader is a typical schoolyard bully and I wish someone could stop that bully. i hate that the govts have so much power.
lostmsu today at 1:43 AM
Download the open weight models while you can
nickhodge today at 1:40 AM
Well, kids, it looks like we're back to closing those tickets the old fashioned way.

By thinking for ourselves and writing the code with the keyboard.

throw3421 today at 1:18 AM
Stupid government run by warmongers
OsrsNeedsf2P today at 1:13 AM
I for one look forwards to our Minimax, Qwen, Kimi, GLM, and Deepseek overlords
jellyroll42 today at 2:23 AM
Trump admin is helping them pump their IPO with this stunt
tamimio today at 1:28 AM
So scare tactics on losing jobs and ending all white collar ones is fine and ok and advertised everywhere, but scare tactics about software vulnerabilities is not and forbidden, got it!
aussieguy1234 today at 1:27 AM
While I'm always skeptical of the claims of AI companies and have been skeptical of Anthropics claims about the dangers of their Mythos model, the fact that the US government is taking this seriously enough to send this type of order is strong evidence in their favor.
ks2048 today at 1:42 AM
Trump must have run his extensive test suite and carefully weighted the dangers vs the legal implications.
catigula today at 1:20 AM
Begun, the AI wars have.
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engineer_22 today at 1:13 AM
> We suspect that perfect jailbreak resistance is not currently possible for any model provider. Every safeguard used in the industry is vulnerable to non-universal jailbreaks (which can elicit some cyber information in specific circumstances), and it is likely that universal jailbreaks will eventually be found in the future.

Laying the groundwork to limit access to high capability models

jimkleiber today at 1:29 AM
How much of this is the dangers of the technology vs the dangers of saying no to the Trump administration?
hendersoon today at 1:11 AM
No actual proof of any kind. Obviously a petulant attack on Anthropic.
LogicFailsMe today at 1:49 AM
Or this is Trump's gift to Elon on the day of his big IPO, only semi-joking.
BayesStreet today at 2:00 AM
it's over
thrill today at 1:49 AM
Typical admin move here - give our foreign competitors as much time to catch up as possible.
ryanSrich today at 1:56 AM
So the moral of the story is, don't build a frontier model in the US. Got it.
tonyhart7 today at 2:11 AM
in the near future, every US citizen need kyc & to prove their loyalty to use super AI model
khazhoux today at 3:02 AM
How am I the only one here who sees this as retaliation for them not playing ball a couple of months ago?
talesfromearth today at 1:58 AM
I'm so sick of all this Anthropic drama.
selimonder today at 1:33 AM
Why Nations Fail? Lol
GreenSalem today at 1:03 AM
MAGA madness strikes again ..
brookst today at 1:00 AM
Most corrupt US administration in history, by a long shot.

Wonder how many US-based early-stage startups are using Opus to research incorporating and moving overseas at this very moment.

EU isn’t tenable, UK is iffy. Australia? Thailand? Who wants to be innovation-friendly?

guybedo today at 1:17 AM
one more reason for Europe to (try to) move away from US companies.

Although it's gonna be more difficult to come up with a Fable competitor than a m365 one

paulsutter today at 2:47 AM
It’s no big deal. Massive infrastructure, laws, processes, and a whole ecosystem of services providers already exist for ITAR/CMMC/FedRamp controls

When you ask for regulation, you get regulated. Welcome to the real world

ulfw today at 2:44 AM
Now can that silly IPO fail too?
dmitrygr today at 12:59 AM
1. Lie about making thinking machines smarter than humans

2. Get treated like you actually did what you claimed, and face consequences

3. ???

4. Profit

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pbgcp2026 today at 2:23 AM
Well, good. Fuck Anthropic. You reap what you sow.
CamperBob2 today at 1:54 AM
>As we have stated publicly, we believe the government should have the ability to block unsafe deployments, as part of a statutory process that is transparent, fair, clear, and grounded in technical facts. This action does not adhere to those principles.

Dario, yesterday: "I am grateful to see the Trump administration’s Executive Order move incrementally towards a greater role for government in AI, though Anthropic’s proposal recommends even further action."

Trump, today: Further action

Dario, today: "Waaaah! This petard I asked President Trump for hoisted my ass halfway to the Moon! Nobody warned me he'd do something like this! No fairrrr!"

myko today at 2:07 AM
Extreme fucking overreach. This is outrageous.
etchalon today at 1:46 AM
Just petty bullshit from a petty, bullshit administration
MaxPock today at 2:11 AM
this is just the Trump admin bullying anthropic for not going along with militarization and surveillance.
eis today at 1:03 AM
I already gave up on Fable 5 because it sometimes was just not worth the editional price compared to Opus 4.8 and other times it flat out downgraded to Opus anyways for no good reason because it thought I'm looking for security vulnerability while working on the auth part of my app. In our company Fable 5 is not enabled because of the change in data retention being required.

And now this. How would they even enforce this restriction when they can't know what nationality the end user behind some API query belonging to a company account has? It seems like nobody is thinking things through anymore and the end result is total unreliability from every angle. What a huge mess all of it, sigh.

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llm_nerd today at 1:13 AM
This administration is spectacularly corrupt (take a look at what is happening with the Gordie Howe bridge -- the entire government is beholden to billionaires if they just pad some pockets), so odds favour that OpenAI called some of their employees in government, looking to kneecap a competitor. They didn't make all of those massive donations for nothing.

The US has long been catastrophically corrupt, with a pay-to-play government, but this army of grifters and thieves have turned every dial to 11.

varispeed today at 1:08 AM
Did Trump write this personally?

> In fact, our safeguards are so strong that many users have complained that they are overly broad.

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tokengod today at 1:31 AM
This is horseshit
dramaqueens today at 12:58 AM
Nice drama, LOL!! I still remember ChatGPT is very dangerous to be released a long time back. World is fine now!!