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nu11ptr today at 5:30 PM
This looks interesting and useful (I haven't tried it yet), but it is important to realize that every single useful Rust program has unsafe. Every single one. Why? Stdlib usage is full of it, and it must be by definition of what it does. In the same way you can't have a useful program without some side effects, so also you can't really have a useful program without doing some level of I/O and FFI, and I/O/FFI is always going to use unsafe under the covers.

That said, there is value in limiting your own unsafe use, and there might be value in limiting unsafe in the crates you use. However, this is really a question of "who do I trust to use unsafe? How much? Under what circumstances?" and NOT "is okay to have any unsafe?" because any useful program will contain a lot of unsafe if traced far enough in its call paths.

smasher164 today at 5:20 PM
I think what would matter from this kind of measure is whether a project's use of unsafe actually has undefined behavior. Like the number of unsafe blocks is not really my concern as much as what the unsafe blocks are doing. If you build a single faulty abstraction via unsafe, anything that uses it is broken.

In my projects, it usually comes down to a scenario like needing to write inline assembly or invoke a foreign function, where there are close to zero guarantees the language can give me.

Waterluvian today at 4:18 PM
I worry a little that perfectly cromulent Rust will get a bad name when the culture tends towards “unsafe is bad.”

Is there real value in these statistics vs. an approach where the measure is test coverage of unsafe blocks?