Mojo 1.0

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swiftcoder yesterday at 7:32 PM
I feel like this language would really benefit from some sort of 1-pager overview.

I just spent a fair bit of time on the official site, and I still don't think I have a very good grasp of what problem this language aims to solve, or why I would select it over other similar languages

redlewel yesterday at 6:48 PM
Don't see the value of using a language with a closed source compiler...

Much better options out there. Python already has libraries like Pydantic that offload performance to functions written in Rust under the hood.

tomburgs today at 10:41 AM
What in the world would posses the modular team to attach those horrendous AI generated thumbnails to each blog post? It makes it feel cheap, even though I know the project has some really serious technical expertise behind it.
oceansky yesterday at 7:15 PM
AI generated first image does not give me much confidence.

Lastest OpenCV 5 release notes also had a lot of LLMisms.

I guess that's the new normal. Still, I am very hopeful for Mojo.

ubercore today at 10:22 AM
This probably has a simple answer, and is something I can easily google. But it's always been in the back of my mind, what optimizations would be possible if you took actual python code and forced 100% type annotation. Could you meaningfully speed that up at the interpreter or with some pre-processing or compilation?
derbOac yesterday at 8:38 PM
Is Mojo being a superset of Python still part of its projected feature set?

I tried Mojo a bit early on and decided to come back to it when it was more complete, and in the interim I read some comments somewhere that the superset-of-Python part was being walked back from.

On https://mojolang.org/docs/roadmap/ it's stated (Phase 3) that "Mojo may or may not evolve into a full superset of Python, and it's okay if it doesn't."

I feel like that "full superset of Python" part was part of the appeal of Mojo.

Personally I'm kind of tired of 97% python-compatible this-and-that. Python itself has enough of a history of incompatibility and the cognitive overhead in switching might be easier with just moving to a totally different language. But maybe not — it depends on the details I guess.

Honestly reading through the documentation more and more I'm more and more confused about what the 1.0 release actually means.

minraws yesterday at 7:19 PM
> Finally, we will continue to progressively open-source more of the Mojo language, as well as components in MAX that we have built with it. Our commitment remains unchanged – we will open source the Mojo compiler and toolchain in 2026.

Why not now though? Why wait for 4 more months? What magic is there to hide in just making it source available at least.

SP3269 today at 5:49 AM
From Mojo Wikipedia article: ``` The intention behind Mojo is to bridge the gap between Python’s ease of use and the fast performance required for cutting-edge AI applications. ```

Basically, same raison d'etre as that of Julia.

twsted yesterday at 8:51 PM
Nothing but respect for Chris, and I understand why founders take these deals. But an acquihire usually means the product is the part that gets left behind, and that's the part I cared about.
alberth yesterday at 5:51 PM
So is the language itself proprietary licensed, with standard library Apache 2?

Am I understanding the current state of things correct?

jdnier today at 7:31 AM
See their in-depth vision doc here:

https://mojolang.org/nightly/docs/vision/

adsharma today at 5:05 AM
Given the shared heritage with MLIR, one way to think about mojo: higher level IR, but still an IR. Rpython for GPUs.

But mojo is a superset, not a subset. So why not use a subset, infer what you need and generate mojo?

I've never seen this question actually presented to the company and discussed in more detail.

cuzezzzbbfofai yesterday at 8:36 PM
Apparently they'll be open sourcing it on August 18th, one week from now.
joddystreet today at 6:26 AM
a systems language that reads like python is great!

python superset would have been perfect.

I do hope the language thrives and gets a community.

All the best to the modular team.

xiphias2 yesterday at 6:58 PM
Mojo may be interesting to me, but they should really split it from Max, which is some closed stuff I'm not interested in.

They should show some performance comparisions between PyTorch and Mojo, PyTorch+kernel compilation + Triton vs Mojo, ThunderKittens vs Mojo.

AbuAssar today at 7:08 AM
first impression based on the hero image is that this is a new model for image or video generation!
beanjuiceII yesterday at 6:50 PM
never has their been a language release so uninspiring
whimsicalism yesterday at 10:26 PM
Sorry Chris, love you but will not use a closed language.
perarneng yesterday at 6:52 PM
The main downside is that usually I only choose languages that the LLM is extremely good at. (however I avoid dynamically typed).

But I hope they succeed, it's a very interesting approach. Then I will jump on it later on. S

charlieyu1 yesterday at 6:49 PM
Interesting. Heard about Mojo a few years now, never really tried it. My Python brain cannot really write C++ or Rust but still need the performance.
tyre yesterday at 8:23 PM
> following the standards of how mature languages (e.g. C++) evolve over time

This gave me a chuckle. When I think of languages evolving their standards, I do think of C++. But not, you know, in a good way.

bobajeff yesterday at 11:20 PM
I wish Modular/Qualcomm good luck with this. We would be well served with a good alternative to Cuda. I will be looking at Modcon to see how serious they are with Mojo's ecosystem. (Hopefully it won't be yet another SYCL).
r_lee yesterday at 7:52 PM
the 1.0 release of Mojo, it's a pretty big event, of course first thing I'm greeted with is an AI slop image on the top of the blog post

awesome

melodyogonna yesterday at 5:18 PM
Hurray!
hnfwd5lqmp yesterday at 7:35 PM
Clear, useful, done
ltbarcly3 yesterday at 10:18 PM
"We arbitrarily decided we are at 1.0 now, this is a major milestone."
jax_bro yesterday at 7:48 PM
closed source ngmi
mono442 yesterday at 6:03 PM
Creating a new language in the age of AI seems kind of pointless. I don't write code by hand anymore, I only review it and I prefer it to be in a language which I already know since investing time in learning another language doesn't make sense at this point.
mojo-10 today at 6:29 AM
(A) MOJO should have used rust.

(B) MOJO should should have used Nvidia.