Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

724 points - yesterday at 5:49 PM

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codechicago277 yesterday at 6:14 PM
Few details but glad to see the project will continue. Given how much crucial information is posted exclusively to X, having an alternative frontend is important.

Interesting that they were inspired by Invidious (alternative YouTube frontend). That’s another project that could use some love. Hopefully AI coding tools can do some good and make it easier for these projects to find ways into the walled gardens and work around the counter measures.

Waiting for the day all the social networks allow api access and become usable again. Maybe we can call it ā€œagent firstā€ to help move things along.

quaintdev yesterday at 6:59 PM
Somebody needs to figure out how to move millions of people from one platform to other. Otherwise we will never get better platforms and our current techlords will keep getting richer.
iamflimflam1 yesterday at 6:11 PM
I once consulted a lawyer when a large company contacted me.

His response was - they've got a team of lawyers on payroll whose job it is to make you run out of money...

ocd yesterday at 6:25 PM
Probably the first time I've read a headline of some kind where good news followed something like "Due to legal advice". I hope the best for any service using Nitter, because the split between X and Bluesky is becoming another red vs. blue making life difficult for everyone else.
ViktorRay today at 1:43 AM
Glad they were able to get legal help and are back. It’s frustrating to me how it’s so hard to access so many websites nowadays without being logged in. Ridiculous that so much of the web nowadays is just a handful of websites almost all of which seem to have so many restrictions.
usern20260720 yesterday at 6:25 PM
It is sad that Twitter is basically a private closed gate monopoly that people beg to use instead of developing alternatives like RSS
willmeyers yesterday at 6:18 PM
When I got my first cease and desist my lawyer basically asked me if this is a hill you are willing to die on (i.e. spend enormous amounts of time and money on). I with them luck. I suspect a Go Fund Me announcement coming soon.
himata4113 yesterday at 7:34 PM
Reading between the lines it appears that the only argument twitter had is that they could not enforce content moderation due to the archival nature of nitter. Pretty cool to see that archival sites cannot get C&D'd that easily!
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jesuslop yesterday at 11:43 PM
Maybe we should define and spec what is an Open Platform, say RSS, Mastodon, grandma cookies recipe in a txt in an Apache, etc. Then paint a beautiful "open platform" logo and start making some collective noises, some pinky flower good-guy psiops. If reply is it alrady exists, it ain't rather working. Currently civil life is being shaped for the algos and the money, that is ok in business terms, we civilians are not coaxed to post or follow Twitter or Facebook as in an Orwellian bad dream. We rather opt-in, yet the politic process is not more illustrated despite all factual discussions at a chat distance of resolution, rational debate is penalized for being boring and much we are offered is as gamified as the Aliexpress user experience. Let's convince ourselves first that the parallel non-profit internet is a grand place to find the full spectrum of human rant in all its glory and gore. Hail the guy in his basement that made and documented a COTS parts scanning tunnel microscope. That is open platform content. Heck, remember webrings? Megacorps are not the problem, it is us being lazy even as spectators.
elcritch yesterday at 8:13 PM
Cool to see such a notable Nim based project continue! It's unfortunate that X tries to block Nitter so often, but zedeus always seems to find a path around technical or now legal issues.

The code looks surprisingly easy to hack on: https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/blob/master/src/nitter.nim

gblargg today at 3:28 AM
Door 1: try to take down sites offering a lite version that people prefer over x.com.

Door 2: improve x.com to be better than third-party sites.

Which is, Elon?

numpad0 yesterday at 6:24 PM
It'll be very funny if everything associated with Twitter branding would survive and the other one just didn't
int32_64 yesterday at 6:47 PM
It seems like it would be a trivial statistical exercise to find all the nitter instance X accounts and just ban them, it's actually embarrassing they got lawyers involved instead of just doing that if they didn't want nitter to function.
delichon yesterday at 6:44 PM
> Following legal advice, the Nitter project will continue.

The word "project" doesn't make a clear distinction between the repo and the instances. Nitter is on good ground with respect to the repo. The instances will be much harder to defend. From that one sentence it isn't clear if this is what the legal advice says or not.

Nitter changed their design such that it now requires an X account to scrape through. This was to stay functional after X removed guest accounts. This exposes them to a legal attack through the terms of service that must be accepted for the account, and to technical attack by blocking the scraping accounts.

gblargg today at 3:30 AM
Redirector is a great browser extension (Firefox and Chrome) to easily automatically redirect x.com links to one of these alternatives, BTW.
mudkipdev yesterday at 8:52 PM
Anyone else wondering what the "legal advice" is?
Retro_Dev yesterday at 6:53 PM
m101 yesterday at 11:06 PM
Presumably there’s a future where your ai agent posts all your videos / pictures / comments on every platform you have so we get around the idea of X, for example, being the only one to receive posts?
petcat yesterday at 6:18 PM
The software project itself is probably fine, but the legal risk is always going to be with the person that hosts it with the intention of facilitating the unauthorized access of Twitter's website. Seems like that could run afoul of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.

Those people should seek their own legal advice.

Decabytes yesterday at 8:25 PM
I feel like setting up the social media is a solved problem. And while getting users is hard, if you hook up to the fediverse, you can piggy back off other Platforms. I think the harder problem is making it profitable
leumon yesterday at 6:54 PM
throw03172019 today at 3:53 AM
Thank goodness! I only use XCancel for tweets
Melatonic today at 7:12 AM
Now if only we can get a working one for Instagram
Markoff today at 6:46 AM
Yeah, I think I will stick with redirectors to working instance anyway, seems like safer option than stick with one specific instance.

https://twit.0r.cx

https://xxcancel.com

sparkling yesterday at 6:15 PM
So X(.ai) can scrape the entire web, but nobody can scrape X. Makes sense.
1matin yesterday at 6:31 PM
Let's hope X doesn't pressure GitHub to take the repo down.

It's actually sad to see how deeply do we depend on monopolies.

latchkey yesterday at 9:02 PM
Looking at their crypto addresses, they are sitting on many thousands of dollars that haven't moved in a very long time. What's the point of donating if they aren't going to use the funds?
amazingamazing yesterday at 7:51 PM
Why do people feel the need to go to X so strongly? What am I missing? I don't use nitter or X
amazingamazing yesterday at 7:48 PM
Why do people feel the need to go to X so strongly? What am I missing? I don't use nitter or X
shevy-java yesterday at 7:33 PM
Total defeat of Elon "I have too much money" Musk.

Now we need an alternative that works well and is de-centralized from the get go.

jauntywundrkind yesterday at 7:07 PM
I'm so here for an age where some of this IP protectionism felony anti-circumvention nonsense gets absolutely bulldozed. Please please please.

It's entirely unacceptable, is suicidal corporatism to riff off the bad man, to have humanity's "public" messaging system be off limits to researchers, academics, observers. To trust a network at their word that they and they alone have a right to defend and protect us from propaganda, from malicious & shadow influence. This is not an ok basis that our information driven civilization can rest on.

I look forward to getting out of this trap. https://bsky.app/profile/jauntywunderkind.bsky.social/post/3...

colesantiago yesterday at 7:02 PM
This is great news!

Lawsuits and cease and desists should never exist for software. I've just seen 10 more instances go live, you can't just go and sue everyone in the world.

It makes no sense to do this to an OSS community project just trying to provide information for free.

I hope as a society we stop censoring projects by using shallow and evil tactics like this.

KennyBlanken yesterday at 8:19 PM
I find it hilarious that the world's richest man, who:

- refuses to speak to the press and lies about having a PR department, but still expects the press to cover everything his companies do

- is ignoring environmental regulations wholesale and literally poisoning tens to hundreds of thousands of people with very high NOx emissions, for which there is a great deal of high quality evidence showing causes significant health issues

- knew his giant rocket test would send debris miles, which caused extensive damage to wildlife near the launchpad and substantial private property damage...but he wanted to launch on 4/20

- runs a car company which was caught speeding up the odometers on cars nearing their end of warranty, purposefully either erases logs from its cars involved in crashes or lies to investigators and in court about whether logs exist/are retrievable, and has blamed its customers for car windows randomly shattering, drive units being destroyed by water ingress due to faulty seals (literally telling people they drove in too heavy a rainstorm)...not to mention currently have a significant problem with their suspensions failing, something that is wildly dangerous and just generally does not happen...not to mention being top per vehicle in deaths, fires, crashes...

- felt entitled to get his hands on nearly every kind of personal data the government has

- produces AI tools that have been repeatedly found to have some of the worst safety limitations on deepfake porn, and also sexual imagery involving minors

- set records for the largest number of complaints at numerous federal regulators and at one point his companies combined were under investigation by ~30 different federal regulatory agencies

- literally paid people to vote for his preferred candidate, because....see prior point

...throws such a major wobbly over nearly anyone doing anything he doesn't like "to" him.