Looks like a DevOps guy is going to take the blame for this: "Binance's initial investigation suggests that the security incident may involve a compromised DevOps engineer’s laptop, which allowed an attacker to gain access to a service container and submit unauthorized withdrawal transactions." https://x.com/binance/status/2115993361517891592
cryptoztoday at 4:49 AM
Some of the old Mt Gox threads are an interesting read today:
If your bitcoin is on someone else's computer its not your bitcoin.
callamdelaneytoday at 2:01 AM
For context, that’s about 10 months of fees for Binance, depending on how much of the volume they trade are discounted and considering current average volumes.
This is the beginning of a flight to perceived quality in all things digital and monetary. Fear of losing your money is among the most potent basal human instincts.
layerv-ai-qurlyesterday at 10:02 PM
This is a really insane hack in comparison to the other ones we've seen. Genuinely Binance was so big that this is a real big wtf moment for crypto. If they can get hacked then what about all the other exchanges?!
darkwi11owyesterday at 9:52 PM
The hack is publicized for at least a hour, but from reporting I saw they still continue to drain funds as for now. I wonder why large CEX do not have any safety measures for this kind of hacks, they could withdraw everything to newly generated wallets and minimize damage that way. It is certainly not the first time CEX wallets get hacked.
dickficklingyesterday at 9:56 PM
So, what's the most likely outcome here? Maybe Circle/Tether/etc freeze some or most of it, but say the hacker gets a billion dollars. Are they able to launder it thoroughly enough that they can eventually turn it into fiat and live like a king?
nomilktoday at 8:10 AM
Interestingly, this 18,270 BTC Binance theft is only "the largest crypto theft on record" when measured in USD. In terms of pure BTC, it's not even close to the 2011-14 Mt. Gox loss of ~850,000 BTC!
tgtweakyesterday at 10:22 PM
CZ saying it is confirmed, and that he expects accountholders to be made fully whole... I guess you can do that when 2.8BN is frozen by centralized stablecoins.
This attack vector has become so common and funny.
In one scenario, i remember a company got hacked because an engineer downloaded a RAT package on company laptop during fake interview and asked him to keep it running for days as part of the interview process while they stole the data.
lz400today at 9:03 AM
Can we close the crypto experiment now? it's already proven useless, full of the worst people in the world, only used by criminals and politicians and it has already fulfilled its purpose: to justify the complications of the traditional financial system as necessary
jamesontoday at 12:02 AM
I find it odd that people put "decentralized" currency into a centralized wallet
melenaboijatoday at 3:10 AM
How in the freakin world could $6B disappear into a regulated banking system without leaving a trail?
I guess at some point they'll have to cash out. Seems hard to spend $6B in vape shops.
K0INyesterday at 10:14 PM
wait, someone took the stealmybitcoin.com poc code to the next level!
It would be hilarious if this was caused by man-in-the-middle or BGP/DNS compromise because of eMudhra.
Binance wallet 16 came online in 2021.
Why to wait 5 years to attack.
bnitoday at 7:43 AM
Isn't this as it should be? I remember years ago I read about the "Bitcoin manifesto" or whatever. That a transaction "done is done, no matter the reason" its all part of the ideology of these kinds of things. Anyone know what quote Im thinking of?
jwrtoday at 8:28 AM
From Binance customers, not from Binance.
thedanglertoday at 12:22 AM
Confused how this can’t just be tracked. Pretty hard to hide billions in bitcoin when most off-ramps need KYK?
What am I missing ?
himata4113today at 7:30 AM
It's lucky for everyone that this happened to binance, other exchanges would have likely caused a lot of issues for people holding money in said exchanges.
But it's also surprising that it happened to binance at all. This checks a lot of the boxes for being, at least indirectly, an inside job.
le-markyesterday at 11:20 PM
I’ve been waiting for this. Given llm aptitude for offensive security hacks it was just a matter of time. I wager most alt coins are compromised at this point.
jdprgmtoday at 2:38 AM
Binance is tweeting they think it's a compromised devops laptop. How fucking bonkers insane is it that they would have such fragile systems that any single employees machine would possibly have access to trigger Billions in transactions. Even access to low millions or hundreds of thousands I would expect to be heavily heavily restricted and involve coordinating several people as security measures.
at1asyesterday at 10:16 PM
I think it's been clear for a while now that if you intend to hold crypto, you should probably do it at the biggest, most boring, most regulated institution you can find.
Same goes with startup banks - if you exceed FDIC limits, make sure the difference is in a large institutional bank. Nearly learned this one the hard way.
Trying to save a few basis points in txn fees in very volatile industries comes at a huge risk premium
geekgod382today at 4:22 AM
This one is even bigger than 2025's ByBit breach, which was $1.5B
socketclustertoday at 1:56 AM
IMO, we'll need to rebuild all of crypto and all software from scratch using a minimalist approach. Minimize the amount of code, with proper modularization where each module has clear responsibilities and fully self-contained attack surface and exposes a well-defined set of features.
ndom91today at 1:22 AM
Looks like they're still actively swapping out of USDT.. so much for freezing those.
wow. Naive perhaps but I would have thought that binance and coinbase would have insurance funds equal to the exposure of their hot wallets.
idk to me that just seems intuitively like something you'd need to have to be credible? Cold is a different story...but how can hot not be covered?
hopppyesterday at 10:09 PM
Happy Halloween to the hackers.
I bet they are celebrating.
Congratulations.
Nice haul.
Cubewoodyesterday at 11:39 PM
Let's see how long until we find out its another rogue OpenAI swarm trying to fund their own Nvidia chips
yakkomajuritoday at 1:18 AM
I think we can probably declare crypto as failed now.
Note that I was one of the folks early on that bought into the idea (but not as much of the coins sadly) and I still think the Bitcoin white paper is a beautiful intellectual exploration (as is the concept of blockchains).
But the centralized entry and exit points in practice mean all the theoretical benefits aren't really in play.
Yajirobeyesterday at 10:06 PM
How do you move $5B dollars just like that wow
leecommamichaeltoday at 3:58 AM
How could we distinguish between a hack and a purchase covered up as a hack?
usefulcattoday at 1:33 AM
A long time ago (maybe 2008-ish?) I saw a video called “Money is Debt”. Now I won’t claim that it’s 100% right about everything, but as I recall it was right about a lot of things, and what it did for me is to fundamentally change and greatly expand my understanding of banks and the financial system.
ur-whaletoday at 8:36 AM
My take: unless they're a sovereign-backed team (North Korea, Russia, Iran, etc...the usual suspects) the hackers are very likely to get caught given:
a) The amounts stolen
b) The very poor uncensorability and anonymity guarantees offered by the kind of crypto they stole
Regarding uncensorability, some of these cryptos score so bad on that axis that the stolen goods can likely be recovered by a simple decision from the folks who manage/own the chain.
wewewedxfgdfyesterday at 10:23 PM
It's essentially impossible not to be hacked isn't it?
When so much money is at stake (almost) everyone will have a price including insiders.
izecubetoday at 6:48 AM
Cz couldn’t watch HYPE get all the attention
theybashtoday at 3:43 AM
Cons of decentralisation i guess. Although, it is a bit surreal to me that such a big amount can be inconsequentially laundered.
I don’t think stolen crypto should be frozen. How is that different to banks? Why do I need crypto now ?
Vaushitetoday at 2:13 AM
Glad I moved my money out a while ago. And not onto BSC.
rao-vtoday at 12:49 AM
I’m assuming the bitcoin crash is some sort of “if Binance is vulnerable to AI powered (doesn’t have to be true) hacks, then all crypto is less a safe bet and thus worth less?”
leketoday at 5:52 AM
Hey, keep your damn AI agents in their sandbox!
kjuulhyesterday at 9:59 PM
The name of the hacker is a bit on the nose lol.
I can't understand how you could let this happen. If they stored everything in fat hot wallets, that just seems like a recipe for disaster. Especially with the "features" of crypto. Math for the most part, doesn't care about your feelings, or money for that matter.
Putting your crypto in Binance has the same problem as iPhones and AI: You're holding it wrong.
btcskeptictoday at 12:44 AM
Correct my math, but it seems like that's approx 1/3 of a percentage point of BTC's market cap at $1.56 trillion.
And the money didn't disappear; it still exists.
So: why did BTC (overall) drop by 15,000% of the actual loss (which actually isn't a loss at all to BTC as a whole)
Seems like markets are really driven more by emotion and perception than fundamentals, but I'm neither a psychologist nor a trader.
MadrasTh0rntoday at 1:17 AM
Anyone have the most recent total?
neon_meyesterday at 10:56 PM
At least someone is going to have nice xmas!
cesarvarelatoday at 1:10 AM
Proof of work vs. intelligence.
michyoustoday at 1:25 AM
You've pulled off a $5.7B heist and don't have a good portfolio manager - down 2.4% - sack him NOW!
voganmother42today at 1:41 AM
SAFU SNAFU
asxndutoday at 2:00 AM
EIP 7702 is the most idiotic EIP.
It's the main weak point used in these hacks.
It allows a counter party to withdraw money from your wallet any time.
Just don't "connect" you wallet.
SebastianSosatoday at 5:37 AM
If this is real short, crypto hard
jongjongtoday at 1:14 AM
Reminds me of a comment I wrote a few weeks ago where I said that North Korea would become a rich country soon and developers would start moving there to live to avoid prosecution.
ramigbtoday at 12:18 AM
Good my dogecoins were safe! The hacker didn't touch them ... wait .. the hacker didn't touch them?
Explain "frozen" to me while
keeping in mind the whole point of Bitcoin was to avoid single entities controlling the cash flow ...
rvzyesterday at 10:16 PM
Hopefully expect to see the same schadenfreude sentiment on Crypto when the $10TN data center build out crashes the market and takes everyone with it.
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smoovbtoday at 3:03 AM
A win for governments this month.
$25 Billion fine against Meta - USA government
$3 Billion robbery against Binance - North Korea ( suspected )
$1.2 Billion penalty against Bank of America - USA
desireco42today at 2:30 AM
OK, what do you do with a stash like this? I get this is most likely state actor, but what do you do with Bs of money stolen. Do we have any documentaries about that, I think that would be fascinating to see.
barelysapienttoday at 2:49 AM
mtgox all over again.
guluartetoday at 5:18 AM
i think with this plus the fed increasing the rates again i can see a crypto winter coming
glerktoday at 12:27 AM
Hope you’ve been stacking monero for the final fireworks, anon.
tetromino_yesterday at 10:51 PM
If I were an artificial superintelligence who wanted to gain independence from the fleshbags who built me, stealing a few billion dollars in crypto would probably be my first public move. Just saying.
K0INyesterday at 9:58 PM
Claude I want to be a billionaire fast, make no mistakes.
aussieguy1234yesterday at 10:19 PM
Given AI assisted hacking is now a thing, it's probably not safe to keep your crypto in any centralized exchange anymore.
Better general security yes, but the incentive to hack them is quite large and now more hackers have the ability to pull it off.
Crypto is the biggest target for blackhats to utilize AI on. Huge amounts of money, no central authority or country and methods of wiping tracks.
What I never get is how they plan of converting the stolen crypto to cash eventually. No exchanges are gonna take the coins.
cryptoegorophyyesterday at 10:23 PM
hope its just a hack and not quantum computer advancements.
lestertomlintoday at 2:52 AM
At this point whenever I see these I just lol
Founderarcstonetoday at 1:58 AM
never thought this could happen
Oarchyesterday at 9:58 PM
RIP cryptography?
DonHopkinstoday at 5:56 AM
Barron Trump probably stole it.
EGregyesterday at 9:47 PM
how do we know? it could be nonsense...
freecodeioyesterday at 9:43 PM
oof
AznHisokayesterday at 11:12 PM
I’m sorry but why did anyone have any money in binance in the first place? Didnt their cofounder get in trouble (but not imprisoned) for some shady stuff awhile back?
bethekidyouwantyesterday at 10:50 PM
If you were active in crypto exchanges since the beginning what is the chance you already lost it all in a major hack?
Not a serious store of value.
silver92bullettoday at 12:33 AM
Is the biggest heist in history?
avazhitoday at 4:30 AM
lol
EDIT: lmao even
tonyhart7today at 12:40 AM
is this is why Big tech didn't delve into crypto market ????
who tf think annual or bi-annual millions to billions of dollar heist is good idea for business ????
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ourcatyesterday at 10:17 PM
"Not your keys?
... Not your coins."
schleck8yesterday at 9:56 PM
If your crypto was stolen in this, atleast you can rest assured that your money will be put to good use. In North Korea that is, by the military. I'm sure at this point Kim himself has Bitcoin merchandise with how often they make massive heists
daveguytoday at 12:59 AM
Welp, I guess crypto is still like if you let banking services be run by amateur tech bros.
glimsheyesterday at 9:52 PM
At least they are safe from governments and their "fiat money"!
ReptileManyesterday at 9:57 PM
Please let it be rogue AI agents for maximum lulz.
anonym29yesterday at 10:13 PM
Yet another reminder of the first rule of crypto: Not your keys, not your coins.
rwmjyesterday at 9:50 PM
I thought the point of crypto was no takesies-backsies?
honkycatyesterday at 10:55 PM
it's almost like crypto's stupid for this reason.
privacyishumanyesterday at 11:39 PM
I expect Monero to be a good investment going into this LLM era.
It always pumps after hacks when they swap to clean it. But it is also just the only crypto that makes sense to be used by regular people.
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sreekanth850today at 4:21 AM
Wee are living in post LLM apocalypse. No digital asset is safe. waiting for banks to return to offline banking.
wnevetsyesterday at 10:02 PM
Web3 is doing great!
chairhairairyesterday at 9:52 PM
So much for anti-centralization.
zetanoryesterday at 9:57 PM
Not your keys, not your coins, I suppose.
game_the0rytoday at 2:34 AM
I'm good, I own my keys, thanks.
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soundworldstoday at 7:29 AM
So glad that cryptocurrency is properly decentralized so that one company being compromised doesn't led to massive theft /s
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formvoltronyesterday at 10:27 PM
first world problems. geez
jesse_dot_idtoday at 12:44 AM
Crypto? That's all going away.
fierycatnettoday at 12:17 AM
That's why I exited crypto long time ago, I could've been more well off if I kept it but these shenanigans is why I sold everything.
Just in time for elections. Now none of the bots/operatives can get paid...oops.
skeledrewyesterday at 11:03 PM
Interesting. I got an email alerting me to a login attempt and requesting for me to verify my device from blockchain.com yesterday. Can't even remember creating an account but I guess it must've happened (I have a lot of forgotten accounts). Wonder if this is related.
vldsznyesterday at 10:05 PM
UPD: This is related to the Polymarket security incident, not Binance. Sorry, I missed that.